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Agenda: day 2


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8.15 Chatham Financial breakfast briefing: Managing the cost of debt

Chatham Financial breakfast briefing: Managing the cost of debt

  • Underlying cost of debt reduced
  • Transformation of the business model
  • Opportunities for growth


  • Faye Gordon, director of finance, Believe Housing
  • Nick Jackson, director of business services & development, Plymouth Community Homes
  • Paul McGrady, executive director of resources, ClywdAlyn

Chair: Sohail Singal, associate director, Chatham Financial

9.30 The view from the Regulator

Fiona MacGregor, chief executive, Regulator of Social Housing

Chair: Sarah Williams, editor, Social Housing Magazine


9.30 Parallel session: The view from the Scottish Regulator

Speakers: Ian Brennan, director of regulation, Scottish Housing Regulator


Chair: Callum Chomczuk, national director (Scotland), CIH

10.45 Funder view on the sector

An opportunity to hear from funders and lenders about their views on the sector. What are they focussing on? Unsecured credit facilities, ESG loans, pensions investment and global investment – is housing still seen as a ‘safe haven’ to investors. Take this opportunity to question the sector’s most prominent investors.



  • David Cleary, managing director, head of housing, Lloyds Bank
  • Fiona Dickinson, investment director, Aberdeen Standard Investments
  • Pete Gladwell, head of public sector partnerships, Legal & General
  • Piers Williamson, chief executive, The Housing Finance Corporation


Phil Elvy, executive director of finance, Great Places Housing Group

11.45 Talking to your investors – communicating your changing profile

With declining credit and viability profiles – how do registered providers ensure that investors are kept on board with the changing journey and manage expectations.



  • Matt Cooper, tax and treasury director, Places for People
  • Eugenia Korobova, debt origination manager, Pension Insurance Corporation
  • Tom Paul, director of treasury and commercial, Optivo
  • Henrietta Podd, director, debt capital markets, Allia C&C

Chair: Luke Cross, director (London), Social

12.35 Lunchtime roundtable: The future of social impact and ESG reporting

A roundtable exploring how the valuation of social impact can enhance the ESG agenda in social housing.

Hosted by Andrew van Doorn, chief executive, HACT

13.20 The viability of development

With changes to the infrastructure levy, shared ownership and leasehold changes and movements away from section 106, what is the impact of these and other policy changes on delivery approaches and future income and what does future success look like? What and how are organisations planning to develop and is there a place for MMC to deliver at volume?



  • Matthew Bailes, chief executive, Paradigm
  • Amy Nettleton, assistant development director – sales and marketing, Aster Group
  • Richard Petty, head of UK living advisory, JLL
  • Craig Taylor, managing director, Thirteen Developments

Chair: Paul Rickard, chief financial officer, Pocket Living

13.20 Parallel session: Upping the supply in Scotland - how realistic are the new goals and how can they be met?

Housing to 2040 sets out a vision for housing in Scotland to 2040 and a route map to get there. It aims to deliver our ambition for everyone to have a safe, good quality and affordable home that meets their needs in the place they want to be. But how realistic are these ambitions, how can they be met and, who fits the bill to deliver?



  • Allan Briggs, director, JLL
  • Tony Cain, policy manager, ALACHO
  • Gillian Lavety, development director of Scotland, Sanctuary Scotland

Chair: Andrew Kilpatrick, director of assets, Caledonia Housing Association

14.30 New routes to market

This session discusses some of the most recent routes to markets, in particular the rise of the EMTN programme. Who are the newest investors and what do HA’s need to do to access? What are the processes for implementing a sustainability framework and where are the opportunities under this relatively new route to market?



  • Dominic Brindley, director, corporate financing and risk solutions team, NatWest Markets
  • Rosemary Farrar, chief financial officer, Platform Housing

Chair: Piers Williamson, chief executive, The Housing Finance Corporation


15.30 Making the most of your loan book: what’s the latest on refinancing conditions?

  • When is it time to tear up an old loan book?
  • Wiggle room: asking for carve outs for fire and carbon spending
  • Bank lending in the spotlight – term loans, RCFs, SLLs.
  • How attractive is bank lending for HAs versus other sources?


  • Jonathan Clarke, managing director, Centrus
  • Sarah Jones, chief financial officer, Anchor Hanover
  • Mike Gerrard, executive director of finance, Onward Homes

Chair: Simon Jones, executive director of finance, Coastal Housing

16.15 Close of day two

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